Rare Zeiss Sonnar Red T 5. 8cm F1. 5 58mm Leica SM LTM L39 M39 |60/1. 5 50/1. 5
Item History & Price
| Reference Number: Avaluer:670200 | Brand: Zeiss |
Ins: purefoto.vintage微信：三六零七一六九三六
I list all my items on Sunday for 7-day auction, and all of them end at the exact time next week.
Only serious bidders are welcomed! Please do not waste the time of other bidders who really want the item!Any non-payment will be reported to Ebay if there is no acceptable reason.And Please leave positive feedback if you are satisfied.I am a top seller in Camera & Photo category, but due to the limitation ...of monthly quota, I am listing my items under this account which I used to buy things only.So, just bid with confidence and check my main selling accounts for other listings and feedbacks by searching seller:purefoto
Important notice: Due to the newly updated unreasonable Ebay policy of seller metrics, pls DO NOT open any case if you are not satisfied with your purchase, make sure to contact me BEFORE you open any case, or this will significantly affect my selling cost.If this happens, I cannot bring more high-value vintage cameras to Ebay in the future.Thanks for your understanding!
致中国买家：
使用微信/支付宝支付价款，给予拍卖成交价格（不含运费）3%的优惠，接受中国及转运地址。另有大量器材无法及时上架，如感兴趣欢迎添加微信号三六零七一六九三六联系，什么都好说：）请注意：如果收货后有任何不满，请不要随意开case，请先联系店主寻求解决，谢谢
Description
The camera is for demonstration only, not included in this sale.
This is a rare lens, this is also a controversial lens. This copy of mine will help to answer some long disputed questions concerning the history of this lens. Zeiss Sonnar 50/1.5 is one of the best fast prime on Leica mount at that time and was favored by legendary photographer Henry Cartier Bresson. The number of the copies of the lens are very limited. For some extremely rare batches of lens marked 5, 8cm f/1.5 or 6cm f/1.5, they are never officially listed in the Zeiss product categories. According to the SN, there are only around 500 units of 5.8cm f/1.5 Sonnar ever made. There are many versions of stories how theses lenses were made. I got this lens from a Veteran who was the sole owner of this lens. This is what he told me:
"I was stationed at Wheeler’s Air Force Base Tripoli Libya I bought the lens with a Leica camera at the PX in probably 1950 I was there between 1950 and 1952."
His comments have provided a lot of useful information. First, those rumors saying that these batches of Sonnar lens were fake replica made in 1980s are totally nonsense! This lens was bought exactly in 1950! Second, as many of these lenses, the source is again the military and it was bought right after war. It generally supported one theory that these lenses are made by previous Zeiss workers with Zeiss optics and East Europe metals in the fabrication in Ukraine. My experience in collecting the camera gears also tell me that this may be the case. We can see the coating of the front element shows purple tone which is exact the same as the Sonnar 50/1.5 lens made in West Germany. But, the lens is made of alloy instead of brass which is generally used on Sonnar 50/1.5 on different mounts, so there can be only two possibilities: the lens is made in East Europe after war or was made in West Germany during the war owing to the lack of brass. Personally I am more confident of the first theory because during the war almost all the aluminum was used to make aircraft, it was kind of luxurious to make a lens in alloy. As far as I know there is still no definite answer to the question of the origin of these lenses, but at least we can say they are 100% from Zeiss after I have this lens with the story behind it.
Now let's talk about the condition of it: there are many micro scratches on the front element and I can see the coating of the first element beneath the shutter blade are becoming deteriorated, but if you look through the lens, you will not see it, it can only be seen under certain low angles so I think this may not affect the image quality. There are no other optical problems. Also we can see some "Zeiss bubble" in the lens which is the common case for Zeiss lenses. The focus and aperture function of the lens work smoothly and perfect, nothing should be mentioned. Again we can see the beautiful purple coating of the lens while the only other lens of this model selling on Ebay is totally coating-less. I believe it was previously polished to make the glasses "perfect". I will never do that and make the lens lose its identity of "Zeiss made", although it will not be optically perfect. Also I see there is no "Red T" on that copy. I will keep the lens as I received it and leave it to the buyers to decide whether it should be refreshed. Now, just join the bid!
◆Overall Condition: Exc-Minimal using marks. Details please refer to the pictures.◆Functional
MF works properly. Aperture ring turns smoothly.Iris blades open and close smoothly.No specific defect detected, perfect functional.◆Optical systemNo haze, fungus, separation, or other defects of any kind. There are some micro scratches on the front element.The coating of the first element beneath the iris blades are becoming deteriorated.
◆Accessories
Generic front cap and rear cap of the lens, a metal hood.Payment
PayPal is preferred.
Will ship in 3 business days after your payment clears.
Shipping
Using UPS or USPS services to ship to northern America addresses. International buyers please ask before bidding.
Any other specific services please inquire in advance.
We do not ship to unconfirmed address to avoid fraud.
Item as describedAll our classic, vintage photographic items are USED unless otherwise stated in the description. None of the cameras, lenses or camera accessories, or other equipment which we are listing have been film tested unless specifically stated in the description above. We try to describe all of our items as accurately as possible. Lenses and camera shutters are physically tested only, by eye and ear/sound. Lens glass and various other optical items such as rangefinders and viewfinders are by visual inspection only. Keep in mind that most lenses, even brand new lenses may have dust particles inside. It has no affect on image results whatsoever. Most items are collectible and sold accordingly. If you intend on using the items in the field or for professional reasons, it is advisable to have the item serviced or cleaned, lubricated and adjusted for ultimate perfection. All of our items are sold AS IS with no returns. Please be aware, you are buying from a professional vintage photographic dealer. You should expect everything to function reasonably well, and that optics have no problems that would noticeably affect image quality and results, unless we describe them otherwise. We try to mention obvious defects or faults and flaws. Please take into consideration that most of the items we sell are used, vintage classic optical collectible equipment. We do not service or repair or maintain or restore equipment (unless mentioned in the description). At best we give the equipment a clean before photography. We test it for function, but can’t guarantee accuracy due to temperamental nature of such vintage classical equipment.CommunicationAlthough we try to give accurate descriptions of our items, it is possible at times to omit or overlook points that may seem unimportant to us but very important to YOU. We urge bidders to ask questions first not after the auction is over. The item you see is the item supplied. We would like a pleasant transaction and wish to receive a 5 star feedback from you. If there is a problem with the item you purchased, please email us immediately and we will find a way to remedy any problem. We believe feedback is an important part of the buying and selling process. We leave feedback for every completed transaction. Due to the volume of transactions we leave feedback in batches. Our feedback and your satisfaction is very important to us. If for some reason you are unable to give us 5-STAR rating for DSR's (Detailed Seller Ratings), let us know what we can do to make thing right in order to receive 5 star feedback. Please, contact us first before posting neutral or negative feedback.Shipping timeWe ship 3 times a week, so you can expect your goods sometimes as soon as 7-10 days after payment received. Subject to post office and customs efficiency. We ship world wide using registered airmail with a simple tracking number or EMS for higher valued items offering insurance for additional safety and with more detailed step by step track and trace. Payment is required within 3 days of auction closing. If you cannot complete payment within this time, please email us to notify us of the expected date of payment.Shipping and handling chargesWe gladly combine shipping charges for multiple purchases allowing you for additional savings. We will calculate shipping at the end of all your purchases. International customers, please note: Depending what country you are purchasing from, duties and taxes on your purchase may be applicable. These are your responsibility and vary from country to country therefore we do not know how much they will be. Please take this into consideration when making your purchase.
I list all my items on Sunday for 7-day auction, and all of them end at the exact time next week.
Only serious bidders are welcomed! Please do not waste the time of other bidders who really want the item!Any non-payment will be reported to Ebay if there is no acceptable reason.And Please leave positive feedback if you are satisfied.I am a top seller in Camera & Photo category, but due to the limitation ...of monthly quota, I am listing my items under this account which I used to buy things only.So, just bid with confidence and check my main selling accounts for other listings and feedbacks by searching seller:purefoto
Important notice: Due to the newly updated unreasonable Ebay policy of seller metrics, pls DO NOT open any case if you are not satisfied with your purchase, make sure to contact me BEFORE you open any case, or this will significantly affect my selling cost.If this happens, I cannot bring more high-value vintage cameras to Ebay in the future.Thanks for your understanding!
致中国买家：
使用微信/支付宝支付价款，给予拍卖成交价格（不含运费）3%的优惠，接受中国及转运地址。另有大量器材无法及时上架，如感兴趣欢迎添加微信号三六零七一六九三六联系，什么都好说：）请注意：如果收货后有任何不满，请不要随意开case，请先联系店主寻求解决，谢谢
Description
The camera is for demonstration only, not included in this sale.
This is a rare lens, this is also a controversial lens. This copy of mine will help to answer some long disputed questions concerning the history of this lens. Zeiss Sonnar 50/1.5 is one of the best fast prime on Leica mount at that time and was favored by legendary photographer Henry Cartier Bresson. The number of the copies of the lens are very limited. For some extremely rare batches of lens marked 5, 8cm f/1.5 or 6cm f/1.5, they are never officially listed in the Zeiss product categories. According to the SN, there are only around 500 units of 5.8cm f/1.5 Sonnar ever made. There are many versions of stories how theses lenses were made. I got this lens from a Veteran who was the sole owner of this lens. This is what he told me:
"I was stationed at Wheeler’s Air Force Base Tripoli Libya I bought the lens with a Leica camera at the PX in probably 1950 I was there between 1950 and 1952."
His comments have provided a lot of useful information. First, those rumors saying that these batches of Sonnar lens were fake replica made in 1980s are totally nonsense! This lens was bought exactly in 1950! Second, as many of these lenses, the source is again the military and it was bought right after war. It generally supported one theory that these lenses are made by previous Zeiss workers with Zeiss optics and East Europe metals in the fabrication in Ukraine. My experience in collecting the camera gears also tell me that this may be the case. We can see the coating of the front element shows purple tone which is exact the same as the Sonnar 50/1.5 lens made in West Germany. But, the lens is made of alloy instead of brass which is generally used on Sonnar 50/1.5 on different mounts, so there can be only two possibilities: the lens is made in East Europe after war or was made in West Germany during the war owing to the lack of brass. Personally I am more confident of the first theory because during the war almost all the aluminum was used to make aircraft, it was kind of luxurious to make a lens in alloy. As far as I know there is still no definite answer to the question of the origin of these lenses, but at least we can say they are 100% from Zeiss after I have this lens with the story behind it.
Now let's talk about the condition of it: there are many micro scratches on the front element and I can see the coating of the first element beneath the shutter blade are becoming deteriorated, but if you look through the lens, you will not see it, it can only be seen under certain low angles so I think this may not affect the image quality. There are no other optical problems. Also we can see some "Zeiss bubble" in the lens which is the common case for Zeiss lenses. The focus and aperture function of the lens work smoothly and perfect, nothing should be mentioned. Again we can see the beautiful purple coating of the lens while the only other lens of this model selling on Ebay is totally coating-less. I believe it was previously polished to make the glasses "perfect". I will never do that and make the lens lose its identity of "Zeiss made", although it will not be optically perfect. Also I see there is no "Red T" on that copy. I will keep the lens as I received it and leave it to the buyers to decide whether it should be refreshed. Now, just join the bid!
◆Overall Condition: Exc-Minimal using marks. Details please refer to the pictures.◆Functional
MF works properly. Aperture ring turns smoothly.Iris blades open and close smoothly.No specific defect detected, perfect functional.◆Optical systemNo haze, fungus, separation, or other defects of any kind. There are some micro scratches on the front element.The coating of the first element beneath the iris blades are becoming deteriorated.
◆Accessories
Generic front cap and rear cap of the lens, a metal hood.Payment
PayPal is preferred.
Will ship in 3 business days after your payment clears.
Shipping
Using UPS or USPS services to ship to northern America addresses. International buyers please ask before bidding.
Any other specific services please inquire in advance.
We do not ship to unconfirmed address to avoid fraud.
Item as describedAll our classic, vintage photographic items are USED unless otherwise stated in the description. None of the cameras, lenses or camera accessories, or other equipment which we are listing have been film tested unless specifically stated in the description above. We try to describe all of our items as accurately as possible. Lenses and camera shutters are physically tested only, by eye and ear/sound. Lens glass and various other optical items such as rangefinders and viewfinders are by visual inspection only. Keep in mind that most lenses, even brand new lenses may have dust particles inside. It has no affect on image results whatsoever. Most items are collectible and sold accordingly. If you intend on using the items in the field or for professional reasons, it is advisable to have the item serviced or cleaned, lubricated and adjusted for ultimate perfection. All of our items are sold AS IS with no returns. Please be aware, you are buying from a professional vintage photographic dealer. You should expect everything to function reasonably well, and that optics have no problems that would noticeably affect image quality and results, unless we describe them otherwise. We try to mention obvious defects or faults and flaws. Please take into consideration that most of the items we sell are used, vintage classic optical collectible equipment. We do not service or repair or maintain or restore equipment (unless mentioned in the description). At best we give the equipment a clean before photography. We test it for function, but can’t guarantee accuracy due to temperamental nature of such vintage classical equipment.CommunicationAlthough we try to give accurate descriptions of our items, it is possible at times to omit or overlook points that may seem unimportant to us but very important to YOU. We urge bidders to ask questions first not after the auction is over. The item you see is the item supplied. We would like a pleasant transaction and wish to receive a 5 star feedback from you. If there is a problem with the item you purchased, please email us immediately and we will find a way to remedy any problem. We believe feedback is an important part of the buying and selling process. We leave feedback for every completed transaction. Due to the volume of transactions we leave feedback in batches. Our feedback and your satisfaction is very important to us. If for some reason you are unable to give us 5-STAR rating for DSR's (Detailed Seller Ratings), let us know what we can do to make thing right in order to receive 5 star feedback. Please, contact us first before posting neutral or negative feedback.Shipping timeWe ship 3 times a week, so you can expect your goods sometimes as soon as 7-10 days after payment received. Subject to post office and customs efficiency. We ship world wide using registered airmail with a simple tracking number or EMS for higher valued items offering insurance for additional safety and with more detailed step by step track and trace. Payment is required within 3 days of auction closing. If you cannot complete payment within this time, please email us to notify us of the expected date of payment.Shipping and handling chargesWe gladly combine shipping charges for multiple purchases allowing you for additional savings. We will calculate shipping at the end of all your purchases. International customers, please note: Depending what country you are purchasing from, duties and taxes on your purchase may be applicable. These are your responsibility and vary from country to country therefore we do not know how much they will be. Please take this into consideration when making your purchase.
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